Jesus Throws a Wrench into Morality

Morality can be viewed through five difference windows, harm, reciprocity, ingroup, hierarchy, and purity. Such windows into a given moral worldview are pretty commonly described throughout the Old Testament. In contrast, I fully believe the words of Christ tend to reorganize and even cast significant aspects of such windows aside.

Having come across some really funky eisigesis in my noon readings today, where in the author tried to toss any number of Jesus teachings to the wind… I was left wondering why and how this can happen. In a lot of ways, I think the author was so tied into a specific moral world view, that he couldn’t tolerate what Jesus had to say. As such, the only way he could even listen to the message of Christ was to take some rather extreme eisegesis.

Lets roll on through some of the moral windows.

Harm/Welfare/Care

In the Old Testament times, folks were to set aside part of their tithe for the poor, likewise the harvest was not to be 100%, parts were to be set aside such that the poor could glean them. Jesus went much further, with his emphasis on individual service and blessings to the orphans, the widows, and the poor.

Justice/Rights/Fairness

Likewise, justice, rights, and fairness were also significant teachings of Jesus. His direct focus on the least of these, the prisoners, and the oppressed, no doubt threw many a wrench into the people that heard him. Yes, prophets in the OT preached justice time and time again, and Sodom was blown away for its lack of justice and concern for the poor… but still no one listened, much less acted.

Group Loyalty

Jesus aggravated the people of Israel in a huge way more than a few times. Folks wanted a revolutionary to rise up against the Romans… what they got was a revolution against their own. What they got was Jesus who crossed the lines to Romans, to Gentiles, and to Samaritans. For those he called, there was almost always a significant cost… they had to leave their group, their families, their wealth, their safety behind.

Respect for Authority, Hierarchy

Jesus upended this most spectacularly with his emphasis on service, and the inversion of rewards and the power structure, much to the chagrin of the leaders of that day. Likewise, he put many leaders and authorities in the hot seat time and time again.

Purity, Sexuality, Food, and Religious Law

Jesus likewise upended the purity laws, whether it be healing on the Sabbath, eating food on the Sabbath, or hanging out with those who would have been considered unclean. Most assuredly for those who had put a stake down in this sector of morality, Jesus must have been anathama to them being viewed as a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and “sinners.” Yes, he did come down on divorce, and adultery… but he seemed to come down a whole lot harder on greed, and the religious laws and practices of the day.

The Eisegesis Guy Once Again

Getting back to the eisegesis guy… he put exceedingly high values on ingroup, hierarchy, and in some of his other writings on purity. With such an extreme focus in those arenas, its no wonder his worldview did not allow him to consider that Jesus would even speak of harm, much less justice in regards to morality.

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Americans, Israel and Palestine

Hous asked the following on twitter. “Do most Americans misunderstand Israel and Palestine?” and then linked to a really cool blog post. While the blog entry itself is interesting, the ongoing comments are where things really rock.

Some themes spin out of this.

  1. The need to distinguishing between the religious and the political aspects.
  2. The need to distinguish between modern and ancient Israel.
  3. There is WAY too big of a gap between ways of thinking and cultures for people in the West to say what they say without understanding the people in the East who are in the heart of it.

Hous’ comment on Mar 23 really hits home. Some bits from it.

….you really have no idea how bad it can get. They “straight line equate” biblical Israel with modern Israel, believe God wants them to displace all of the Palestinians, believe a lot of bizarre apocalyptic things about rebuilding the temple, etc., and categorically reject everything Palestinian and Arab, even faithful Palestinian Arab Christians. This line of thinking is very real and held by tens of millions of Americans.

Such is a problem, a huge problem, and its not one thats easily solved. If it were just an area of theological dispute, greater emphasis on proper Biblical exegesis would solve it organically.

Instead for far too many, mere mention that such beliefs could be in error come across as an attack on their entire faith structure, and they may well dismiss further Biblical study on the matter.

In a lot of ways, I think the whole “left behind” industry holds the blame for this mess. Much more so than Darby, or even Schofield for that matter. (While I find pretrib to be a huge error, in and of itself it doesnt have to lead the wild beliefs which Hous writes about). Its a sad deal, that far too many Christians know more left behind trivia than they do of the scriptures.

Perhaps a direct counter to the left behind industry based upon rock solid scriptures and theology, (perhaps even if it includes pretrib eschatology) may be part of the answer.

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Penal Substitionary Atonement, and the Dangers There of

The early church fathers for the most part did not ascribe to substitutionary atonement. For sure, some scriptures do very heavily lean that direction. Yet, other scriptures end up throwing a pretty massive wrench in that direction. Whats perhaps the most troubling, is it appears some contemporary preachers go so far as to nearly equate the Gospel to penal substitutionary atonement.

I’ve often found it interesting that the early church fathers did not hold so such. Origen (185-254 CE) presented the ransom theory

He suggested that, as a result of the sin of Adam and Eve, Satan had acquired a formal dominion over, and ownership of, all of humanity and the rest of the world. In order to free people from the grip of Satan, God agreed to arrange the death of Yeshua, his son, as a ransom price to be paid to the devil. This would formally compensate for Adam and Eve’s sin, and would release humanity from Satan’s grip. Origen wrote: “The payment could not be [made] to God [be]cause God was not holding sinners in captivity for a ransom, so the payment had to be to the devil.” Origen believed that Satan accepted the offer because he assumed that he would end up with ownership of Yeshua. The devil didn’t realize that Yeshua would escape his clutches. God deceitfully pulled a “bait and switch” operation by resurrecting Yeshua a day and a half after his death on the cross. This left Satan without any reward. Yeshua had escaped Satan’s grasp and was reunited with God. Origen concluded that humans can then be reconciled with God if they trust Yeshua as Lord and Savior.

A couple disturbing things I’ve come across over the years are the following.

1. Folks who have seemingly walked away from Christ, often see God’s actions in PSA as cruel and barbaric.

A blogger over at arewomenhuman stated the following:

I couldn’t stomach the thought of standing in church and singing hymns thanking God for killing someone “for” me.

Another good discussion of this is presented in “The cross is an Insult to Forgiveness”

I’ve often wondered if the doors to trinitarian heresies are opened by PSA. For many in the pew, its almost as if the focus shifts to God torturing Jesus. Its as if Jesus was not God, and as such, it seemingly pretty much throws the trinity by the wayside. Anselm’s (1033 to 1109 CE) satisfaction theory (which predated PSA), in his Cur Deus Homo (Why God Became Man) presents the following:

  • Chapter 6 “…the price paid to God for the sin of man [must] be something greater than all the universe besides God….Moreover, it is necessary that he who can give God anything of his own which is more valuable than all things in the possession of God, must be greater than all else but God himself….Therefore none but God can make this satisfaction.”
  • Chapter 9 “…God, he will possess omnipotence….He can, then, if he chooses, lay down his life and take it again….Therefore is he able to avoid death if he chooses, and also to die and rise again….the gift which he presents to God, not of debt but freely, ought to be something greater than anything in the possession of God….Now this can neither be found beneath him nor above him….In himself, therefore, must it be found….nothing can be more severe or difficult for man to do for God’s honor, than to suffer death voluntarily when not bound by obligation; and man cannot give himself to God in any way more truly than by surrendering himself to death for God’s honor. Therefore, he who wishes to make atonement for man’s sin should be one who can die if he chooses.”

2. It is possible that PSA may open doors for spiritual abuse and/or the replacement of God’s love and grace with toxic soteriology, even more so without the solid grounding of the trinity. Arewomenhuman presents the following:

Substitutionary atonement requires us to accept that it’s alright for God to behave in ways that would be considered cruel and capricious from anyone else. It requires that we claim God is “good” in a way that doesn’t resemble what we would call “good” in any other context. It preaches a patriarchal God who brooks no defiance and demands perfection from others that “he” doesn’t live up to, and doesn’t have to live up to. In so doing it provides a script and model for authoritarian, hierarchical, abusive relationships between human beings that mirror the authoritarian, hierarchical, abusive relationship between God and humans.

While I’d be in error to attribute causality, my experience with multitudes of de-churched folks over the years, has often indicated that when PSA leans towards or replaces the Gospel, spiritual abuse is often right around the corner.

I wonder if perhaps the early church fathers anticipated this danger, and thus shied away from PSA? They had the same scriptures we do today, and its not as if there were not historical discussions seemingly pointing to PSA… but it was left by the wayside.

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If we are the body

For day after day they seek me out… they seem eager to know my ways. Yep, such is the first bit of todays lectionary reading. Despite the multitude of problems in contemporary Christian society, underneath it all, I think there is an eagerness to know God’s ways. I think there is a level of seeking going on, even amongst Sunday only Christianity.

Its also interesting how verse 9-10 of Isaiah ties right into todays Gospel reading… If we are to let our light shine before men, we ought not to be putting it under a bowl. If we are to let our light shine, we ought not to be doing the finger pointing and malicious talk.

We’ve been working on some Casting Crowns tunes on Friday nights, and both seem to hammer home todays scriptures.

The chorus of “Does Anybody Hear Her”

Does anybody hear her? Can anybody see?
Or does anybody even know she’s going down today
Under the shadow of our steeple
With all the lost and lonely people
Searching for the hope that’s tucked away in you and me
Does anybody hear her? Can anybody see?

 

The chorus of “If We are the Body”

But if we are the Body
Why aren’t His arms reaching
Why aren’t His hands healing
Why aren’t His words teaching
And if we are the Body
Why aren’t His feet going
Why is His love not showing them there is a way

My friend @tragicpizza hit on a couple key bits in this mornings sermon.

1. Jesus declares us salt and light, its not something we do on our own.

2. We are to act who we are. He hits home with the following.

If we view church as something we go to, rather than something we are; if it’s a once-a-week get-out-of-Hell-free card or if it counts as positive marks on our social acceptability meter, we miss the point, and I would contend that we are in danger of finding out how salt can become unsalty.

And if we, as Christians, are struggling to be accepted by God, to be doctrinally perfect and theologically blameless, we’re missing the point. We are already accepted by God. We are already salt and light. We don’t cease functioning because we’re already there; instead, knowing who we are and whose we are frees us to act in response to this incredible gift of God’s grace! We can’t be anything but salt! We can’t be anything but light!

He then follows up with what happened when Canvas Community Church saw a need in their community.

In early January, as temperatures in Arkansas were dropping far more than usual, the homeless shelters became filled to over capacity. People were, out of necessity, being turned away. There was no room. Canvas Community church members decided to open their doors so folks could get warm. There was no big pomp and circumstance, no running it through committee to make sure it didn’t violate the charter, no budget, and no plan for how to get it done.

….

What is striking to me, and not in a good way, is this: Canvas Community Church is all too unique, not because of what they did, but that they did it at all. They didn’t sit back and expect the shelters to magically expand their capacity to do the job. They didn’t wait on the government to step in. They were salt. They were light.

Seeing a need and actively, even recklessly, meeting that need? That is being the salt of the earth which brings nourishment, healing, and restoration. That is being the light of the world which brings hope, direction, growth, and life.

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Disciples and Believers

When the ELCA Study Bible came out a ways back, there was a whole lot of muttering over Dr Priebe’s commentary on the great commission. So much so, that apparently later printings of it have that section redacted… most likely due to the fact it can easily be misread as to suggest universalism. On the other hand, in pulling out the following:

Jesus now sends the disciples to make disciples of all nations. That does not mean make everyone disciples. Most people who are helped by Jesus and believe in him never become disciples. Jesus includes in salvation people who do not believe in him or even know about him. Disciples are students, called for the sake of the world to learn from Jesus and to bear witness to the kingdom.

…we end up missing the discussion on disciples as well. Dr Priebe distinguishes between one who believes, and one who is a disciple, but the direction he chooses is vastly different than what is commonly understood, ie, what is presented in James 2:19.

You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.

In his offline commentary, Dr Priebe ties this into Acts 16:1 where Timothy’s mother was described as a believer, and Timothy was a disciple. If we then take this a tad further, and roll on over to 2 Timothy 1:5, we learn a bit more of Timothy’s mother and grandmother.

Paul writes: “I am reminded of your sincere faith, which first lived in your grandmother Lois and in your mother Eunice and, I am persuaded, now lives in you also.”

On first glance… what gives with this? If we take the common understanding that all those who follow Christ are disciples, things dont square up with Timothy’s mother not being called a disciple. Logically based upon the 2 Timothy text, she practiced her faith, she prayed, she taught her son, she was active in her community of faith, (in todays world, maybe she was at church 3-4 times a week or more, taught Sunday school, sang in the choir, and tithed to boot)… and yet, she is not considered a disciple?

If we go back to Dr Priebes commentary…

In the Greek philosophical schools or later in Rabbinic Judaism beginning shortly before the time of Jesus, a “disciple” is a pupil of a teacher – the two terms go together. In Matthew, those who believe in Jesus and are benefited by him, experiencing the transforming power of the kingdom – or even the crowds that follow him – do not become disciples even when they may want to do so. What is distinctive about being a disciple in the Gospels is that they do not decide to become disciples, Jesus calls them to be disciples – and in that sense “makes” them disciples, although that language is not used. Second, being a disciple entails not only a pupil-teacher relationship, as it does in the philosophical schools or in the Rabbinic tradition, but it also entails an attachment to the person Jesus Christ.

and

The idea that a small number of people who are called by Jesus and who bear witness to him fill the world with the light of the gospel and with his presence is reflected in a different way when Athanasius in the early 4th century speaks of the entire world being filled with the light of the Gospel and Jesus’ transforming power. The Christian missionaries in China in the 7th and 8th century say the same thing about the light of the gospel filling the entire kingdom. In neither case are Christians anything but a small minority. But what they refer to is that there are Christians who bear witness to Jesus Christ scattered throughout the Empires, and through their witness all things are being transformed.

In other words, Dr Priebe seems to put the role of being a disciple as a different calling in contrasted with those who are called to be believers. I think he may be onto something with that.

The thing is… even if folks are not disciples, if we look to Timothy’s mother and grandmother as non-disciple participants in his growth, their faith practices, and their entire lives pointed to Christ. They were likely anything but Sunday only Christians. They were believers making disciples!

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Confirmation Sucks, A Rebuttal Pt 1 of 3

Rob Hahn presented an interesting article entitled Confirmation Sucks… and while I agree with him as to a number of points he made, my thought is not that confirmation sucks, but more so that there is a lot of room for improvement. Its not so much in the confirmation process itself, but moreso the often lacking Christian education leading up to it.

His analysis of the focus on knowing “about” God vs. “knowing” God is pretty on the spot though. The ELCA has a multitude of amazing resources that can do a great job of presenting much information about God. Where the rubber hits the road though, is making the connection from knowing about God to knowing and experiencing God.

Robs primary objection, is that the focus ends up being more knowing about God, than knowing and experiencing God. Sadly, the resulting outcome of such is pretty predictable. For far too many, they just walk away after confirmation. They were able to jump some hoops, parrot back some information, and then they think, yep, done with that… Most certainly the statistics of youth falling away from the church lend credence to such analysis.

Where I think his analysis falls apart is his assumptions that knowing about God from the get go is not that important, that one can learn what they need to later on. Granted, such a view seems to align with Luther writing’s quite a bit… most assuredly Luther was not impressed with confirmation, albeit he did not prohibit its usage. It’s also true that the apostles didn’t go through a lengthly training program before Jesus asked them to follow Him (all one has to do is look at some of the outlandish statements and questions they asked to find they were pretty lacking Christian education wise).

Luther

It is quite true that “knowing” God for some, can come about the hard way through experience, when everything crashes and burns. Its also true, that “knowing” God can come about an easier way, through knowing God a little bit, and knowing a fair amount “about” God first, so that when the hard experiences come, one is somewhat ready.

Yes, scripture alone doesn’t bring one to that point of view… but most assuredly tradition, reason, and the experience of others certainly reinforces it

Yet another aspect that I think is important is God’s action in confirmation. Again, Luther dint hold such in high regard… but then we must consider a couple bits of scripture. First, God’s word doesn’t return void, as noted in Isaiah 55:11, albeit such is something far outside our scope as humans to understand. And yes, we can hose things up as demonstrated in Mark 7:13. Perhaps such might be part of Lather’s justification for his views. On the other hand, it’s pretty easy to see the incredible retention aspects of confirmation when someone returns to the church after a 20-30 year absence. I’d say that without God acting, such would be impossible…

Lastly, there is the basic ad psyche principle of material learned first is retained to a greater degree than later material. It should also be noted, that if later material ends up being in conflict, it could take a long time and significant effort to relearn things another way. Perhaps this is best illustrated by the following video where Father Barron discusses you tube heresies.

Imagine how ones world would be rocked if they grow up in one Bibliological reference frame, only to have to relearn what their church actually teaches years later. Multitudes of conflicts and internal struggles show up due to vastly different Bibliology, with CWA09 being one of the most recent examples of differing reference frames in conflict.

Confirmation is just too important not to be taken seriously. Part 2 will look at some of the problems in greater depth, and part 3 of this series presents some solutions..

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W2 Verification of Tithing, Cool or Not Cool

“Is it all right for your church to ask you for your W2, for tithing purposes?” was a question Brant posted on facebook and the comments lit up like a wild fire (over 200 in a short period of time). Most folks were aghast, and the “its between God and you” which somewhat aligns with the scripture about not bragging about good works came up time and time again. On the other hand, the verbiage commonly used in the comments suggested it seemed more so a privacy/culture issue than a sin avoidance one. Also considering the average tithe is around 2%, rather than 10%, much less the 23-1/3% called out in the OT, all the outrage in the comment section doesn’t add up either. Ie accountability would seem to increase those figures, and that would be a good thing.. but then its personal accountability, not the other guy, so maybe not. (bearing in mind, the law is fulfilled, and contemporary tithe concepts are drastically different than what the OT actually presents)

Upon a bit further thought, I came across three big logical inconsistencies.

First, many commentators have suggested it would be fine to require W2 submission if the church was providing help to a down and out person. Face value wise seems to be a double standard, the poor have to share the info, the rich can keep it hidden away. It seems counter to the whole bit about those who have been given more, are also subject to being required more etc. Admitted, it does seem like good stewardship to minimize fraud via verification.

Second, why should the church membership operate under less accountability than the government and charities, where salary data is published for accountability purposes? It would seem that the church body should set the example when it comes to accountability, rather than preferring to hide things in the dark.

Third, Jesus asked the rich young ruler to sell all he had and to follow him. Simply providing a document is pretty minor in contrast with what was asked of the rich young ruler… and he had already heard Christ’s words, the door was open, but he chose to walk away. Yet, many commentators openly said, if such were to occur, they too would walk away. Granted, folks are at different places in their walk, and also they are called to different things… but to walk away?

That being said, I would tend to think of such a practice negatively, knowing that if implemented, other sins within and around the body of believers would likely multiply. It also might present a barrier to the Gospel, if showing said W2 was necessary to venture in the door. Lastly, there is also the aspect of obligation, vs responding in love for God and one another. The W2 aspect would shift things into the obligation realm, rather than the love one, which obviously would be not cool…

It is an interesting question to ponder though.

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Sanitizing the Wise Men

I’ve been thinking about Epiphany and the wise men for a bit. Its interesting how a so called sanitized view of those fellows seems to pervade much of Christian society.

Many folks hold them out to be Kings, and I think such is reasonable if one looks at their visit fullfilling old testament prophecy. The thing is, to simply state they are kings from afar, and that they were astronomers is only part, and realistically only a sanitized part of the story. More so, I think we loose something if the story is just left at that.

The study of the stars is what leads us to think of astronomy, today, a very hard science with an incredible amount of really nasty mathematical equations behind it, albeit extremely visually appealing. Back then, the study of stars was likely a lot more oriented along the lines of astrology, rather than orbital mechanics and spectral analysis.

The word magi is sometimes used to describe the wise men. Magi, were typically followers of Zoroaster, and for all practical purposes were Persian priest astrologers. If we do a bit of digging into the term “wise men”, we find it also refers to Simon the Magician (a believer, albeit an inept one, and for whom the sin of Simony is named) in Acts, yet another connection to astrology and sorcery. We also find Elymas, another sorcerer, albeit one who tried to lead people astry.

Lets look at the gifts they brought… gold, frankincense and myrhh. A vastly different type of offering than sacrificed animals as was the common practice of the day. Some records suggest that Gold, Frankincense and Myrhh were given to the mythical God Apollo hundreds of years prior. In todays world, we think very positively of the gifts… I’m not so sure said combination gifts would be looked at as being very popular amongst those who ascribe to a legalistic point of view back then.

Even more so, imagine the outrage amongst those who didnt like it that Jesus ate with sinners, that the first ones who came to be with him were sorcerers, and were guided by a star. God pretty much condemns folks who practice such in the OT, but yet he used exactly such folks to be the first recorded to see his Son.

What I find really impactful, is despite the practices and lifestyle of the wisemen, they knew of the Messiahs birth, they gave homage to God in his most humblest state, as a mere babe. If one does ascribe them to be Kings, their actions seem even more powerful. They set aside their works, their world, their lives to find what God had illuminated to them… They didnt miss the point, like so many others, who had the right lifestyle, the right actions, the right ancestry… yet got it all wrong.

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Ramblings on St Stephen

Some random thoughts on St Stepen, bearing in mind either the 26th(West) or 27th(East) was St Stephen’s day.

The social gospel, with the power of the Gospel… The social gospel should not be just the doing of good deeds. More so, it should be folks doing good deeds, equipped, ready, and willing to make disciples should the Holy Spirit open the doors to do so. St Stephen was giving the role of helping the widows to allow the others to fully devote their time to prayer and the ministry of the word. While scripture doesnt give us much history as far as how much he did as concerns helping the widows, it fully addresses his sharing the good news of Christ to an audience who was less than receptive.

The synagogue of the Freedmen and their zeal for the law, so much so they completely missed the fact that the law and their scriptures pointed to Christ parallels a some of todays ministries. So many good deeds end up so focused on the deed aspect that Christ ends up being set aside… or in other cases, the tight integration of church and state forces Christ aside. When it comes to government funding of ministries, if someone steps up and fusses, things do not go well. Perhaps we really arent that different than the folks in the Freedman synangogue way back when, albeit it would be unlikely for the messenger to be stoned… but shunned would be a real possibility in some circumstances.

St Stephen’s defense in front of the Sanhedran rocked…

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Pew Potatoing and Learning to Land a Plane Pt 2

Pew Potatoing and Landing a Plane Pt 2. So, how does this play out in Christianity?

Valley’s, Mountain tops, and Plateaus

We are not all in the same place in our Christian walk. Some are in valleys, some on mountain tops, some in transition up or down, and yes, some on plateaus along the way. We see Elijah in a world of hurt w depression in a valley in 1 Kings 19. We see Peter in a world of hurt for denying Christ in the Gospels, another valley. Yet, we also see Peter on a mountain top, both figuratively and literally during the transfiguration. Plateaus seem surprisingly absent in scripture, albeit most certainly they do exist in ones Christian walk. In a lot of ways, I think plateaus bring us to trust God more fully, even though they are not so much fun being in them.

Discouragement

However, just as in learning to fly, their are times when static contemplation and synthesis can be perceived as stagnation or even back sliding leading to discouragement, yet are very much part of growing in Christ. The key to discerning / avoiding / dealing with discouragement is awareness and perseverance. Awareness that plateaus / pew potatoing occurs, and such is not always a bad thing if discerned properly… and that a plateau might well be viewed as a form of suffering, which then ties right into Romans 5 with perseverance.

Not only so, but we[co] also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. and hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us.

If we find pew potatoing, is it really a plateau in growth, or is it like the passive, unengaged flight student in rote mode? Some observations…

Travis hit on this a while back with the following as concerns the dangers of passivity and as he says, in-grown, self-centered worship.

When worship is turned into an excuse to avoid our calling, it is insincere at best and idolatrous at worst—we worship a golden calf made in our own image.

Another observation concerning passivity and lack of engagement from JessicaB:

…have never read the bible for themselves. Their thoughts and ideas about God and Heaven are mostly folklore and old wives tales that have been told to them by a grandma or neighbor…or tv.

I could literally elaborate on this into infinity. So I’ll cut myself off by saying: these generalized set of nominal christian’s I’m talking about…

Have never had their lives changed.

@rev3j stated the following on twitter:

in my experience it more often result in inoculations which prevent viral transference

well what I see in the gospels is two distinct groups of people disciples and the crowd disciples actively follow crowds worship praise & listen to messages but they aren’t disciples because they aren’t actively following. Jesus bids us follow

Pew Potatoing and Passivity Under Pressure

The saddest part, is when pew-potatoing gets put under pressure, it usually crashes and burns… just as what would likely happen to a passive unengaged flight student if left alone and unguided.

more in Pew Potatoing and Landing a Plane Pt 3 The flight instructor and the church

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