Comments on: Wheres the meat (no offense toward vegetarians intended) http://lutheranforums.com/blog/2009/05/01/wheres-the-meat-no-offense-toward-vegetarians-intended/ no longer walking away when God opens a door Sat, 04 Sep 2010 19:39:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Ron Amundson http://lutheranforums.com/blog/2009/05/01/wheres-the-meat-no-offense-toward-vegetarians-intended/comment-page-1/#comment-313 Ron Amundson Sun, 03 May 2009 02:22:09 +0000 http://lutheranforums.com/blog/?p=161#comment-313 I agree to a point... but what about those who have been fed milk for an extended period by others? What about those who ascribe to a theology of Glory, semi-Pelagianism, or biblio-idolatry. When they hit brick walls, or when they get to the meat they crash... Or others, who come to find they or their church built a theology on sand, and it all comes crashing down. Often times, such folks have a fair amount of head knowledge, albeit in error and often superficial... but without a foundation based upon Christ, major faith crisis ensues. I know far too many folks who have experienced that situation; many throw out the entire Bible, their faith, and the church as a whole. I realize its the Holy Spirit that can bring them back, but yikes. Obviously, its not an excuse not to teach the meat, but it does pose the question as to how to reach the disenfranchised, the de-churched, those who have crashed etc. I know the emergent crowd is trying to work in this area, but its an uphill battle to say the least, and I'm not totally convinced that they really have the right answers either. Its not simple by any means. I agree to a point… but what about those who have been fed milk for an extended period by others? What about those who ascribe to a theology of Glory, semi-Pelagianism, or biblio-idolatry. When they hit brick walls, or when they get to the meat they crash… Or others, who come to find they or their church built a theology on sand, and it all comes crashing down.

Often times, such folks have a fair amount of head knowledge, albeit in error and often superficial… but without a foundation based upon Christ, major faith crisis ensues. I know far too many folks who have experienced that situation; many throw out the entire Bible, their faith, and the church as a whole. I realize its the Holy Spirit that can bring them back, but yikes.

Obviously, its not an excuse not to teach the meat, but it does pose the question as to how to reach the disenfranchised, the de-churched, those who have crashed etc. I know the emergent crowd is trying to work in this area, but its an uphill battle to say the least, and I’m not totally convinced that they really have the right answers either. Its not simple by any means.

]]> By: Joelle http://lutheranforums.com/blog/2009/05/01/wheres-the-meat-no-offense-toward-vegetarians-intended/comment-page-1/#comment-311 Joelle Fri, 01 May 2009 19:01:35 +0000 http://lutheranforums.com/blog/?p=161#comment-311 I agree - and clergy vastly under estimate what church members can handle...usually when I share biblical scholarship with my folks the reaction is "Well that makes a lot of sense, but how come I never heard of of this before? If there is a faith crisis it's one of our own creating because people lose trust in the church because we've been treating them like children and haven't been sharing this stuff with them. I agree – and clergy vastly under estimate what church
members can handle…usually when I share biblical scholarship with my folks the reaction is “Well that makes a lot of sense, but how come I never heard of of this
before?

If there is a faith crisis it’s one of our own creating
because people lose trust in the church because we’ve been treating them like children and haven’t been sharing this stuff with them.

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