http://lutheranforums.com/blog/2009/03/12/an-anti-safe-approach-to-the-future/ no longer walking away when God opens a door Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:13:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://lutheranforums.com/blog/2009/03/12/an-anti-safe-approach-to-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-318 Moriah Conquering Wind Tue, 05 May 2009 18:24:57 +0000 http://lutheranforums.com/blog/2009/03/12/an-anti-safe-approach-to-the-future/#comment-318 No idea. Been too often on the receiving end to be truly objective about this sort of thing. Maybe the answer lies in realizing that when you get your hands dirty getting all tangled up in someone else's life because God sent you there, and you have no qualms about making that known to those you "reach out" to, you might want to stop and consider that whatever else might be going on outwardly for them, they take that very freaking seriously, and subsequently giving up on them, dropping them like a disease or throwing them away will be very literally to them just like God doing so, and it does not matter whether they seem open to God or hostile to Him, it will still register that way. Maybe becoming aware that if you have in mind to "reach out" to others in any capacity, it stops being about you getting validated for doing so and starts being about them and their needs -- or else don't flipping go there. But therein lies the dilemma -- perhaps people HAVE started doing this and have simply concluded they cannot "go there" as a result. Maybe they DO count the cost and decide it too high. It doesn't know ... like it said ...been too often on the receiving end (the one betrayed and abandoned and discarded -- or just blown off and written off as a lost cause from the get go and in some very loud, concrete, blatant terms at that) to be truly objective about this OR to have a clue what fantasy outreach would look like. No idea. Been too often on the receiving end to be truly objective about this sort of thing. Maybe the answer lies in realizing that when you get your hands dirty getting all tangled up in someone else’s life because God sent you there, and you have no qualms about making that known to those you “reach out” to, you might want to stop and consider that whatever else might be going on outwardly for them, they take that very freaking seriously, and subsequently giving up on them, dropping them like a disease or throwing them away will be very literally to them just like God doing so, and it does not matter whether they seem open to God or hostile to Him, it will still register that way. Maybe becoming aware that if you have in mind to “reach out” to others in any capacity, it stops being about you getting validated for doing so and starts being about them and their needs — or else don’t flipping go there. But therein lies the dilemma — perhaps people HAVE started doing this and have simply concluded they cannot “go there” as a result. Maybe they DO count the cost and decide it too high. It doesn’t know … like it said …been too often on the receiving end (the one betrayed and abandoned and discarded — or just blown off and written off as a lost cause from the get go and in some very loud, concrete, blatant terms at that) to be truly objective about this OR to have a clue what fantasy outreach would look like.

]]> http://lutheranforums.com/blog/2009/03/12/an-anti-safe-approach-to-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-301 Ron Amundson Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:12:00 +0000 http://lutheranforums.com/blog/2009/03/12/an-anti-safe-approach-to-the-future/#comment-301 Sadly, you are all too correct in the Pilate analogy... Its certainly easier to wring ones hands than to jump in and get dirty. How best should we address this? Sadly, you are all too correct in the Pilate analogy… Its certainly easier to wring ones hands than to jump in and get dirty. How best should we address this?

]]> http://lutheranforums.com/blog/2009/03/12/an-anti-safe-approach-to-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-297 Moriah Conquering Wind Tue, 07 Apr 2009 02:13:48 +0000 http://lutheranforums.com/blog/2009/03/12/an-anti-safe-approach-to-the-future/#comment-297 Eh. You will find not that love waxes cold because iniquity abounds, but rather that iniquity abounds because love waxes cold. Nobody gets their hands dirty anymore. People would rather go the Pilate route and wash them. Eh. You will find not that love waxes cold because iniquity abounds, but rather that iniquity abounds because love waxes cold. Nobody gets their hands dirty anymore. People would rather go the Pilate route and wash them.

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